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Should men have the option to not pay support? Yes.  

Heathen_G 65M
391 posts
6/3/2019 10:54 pm
Should men have the option to not pay support? Yes.

Paying support should be an option. Not mandatory by law.

Generally, who will choose not to pay support? Men [mostly] whom a woman should have thought harder about getting married to, and/or having [with].

No such thing as deadbeat dad unless a woman makes a deadbeat dad, by mating with a deadbeat.

In the 1990's if a woman and man have sex [dated], and she says she is using birth control, but really isn't, she has the right to raise the without his knowing he even has as a , and then to sue him for retroactive support, even 10 to 20 years later. That man should not be held legally responsible for any payments whatsoever.

Women can trick or r*pe a man, or a male minor , and he could be held legally responsible [liable] for providing monetary support. Courts have ruled that way.
But the court has also ruled, [for the woman] if the sexual intercourse results in the birth of a is involuntary , or without consent, a woman may have just cause for refusing to support the .

Apparently in the U.S. , "The best interest of the ", [when it comes to support] only applies to the male.

Not only are men responsible for whom they did not consent to fathering, but the male is also responsible for whom are not even his genetically.

Apparently then , women have reproductive rights , men have responsibilities. And that's just wrong.


Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
6/30/2019 3:06 pm

I have to disagree with you on this one my ex husband tried everything to get out of paying child support for our four children, even made me take paternity tests when they all came back 99.9% his. And then when he had a job he would quit. I successfully raised our four children by myself with no help from him physically or emotionally in fact he damaged our sons by abandoning them on a street corner not once but twice in the same day.

And as far as child support goes, men should pay for their children, my ex quit every job that he had, I did get half of his postal retirement though, but that wasn't much help really. Hell he died still owing me child support!!!

This really irritates me as there are a lot of good men out there that are paying child support that don't have to they choose to and that makes them an upstanding man in my book. If the children are not theirs I don't think they should HAVE TO PAY for them. But DAMN IT if they ARE THEIR KIDS then hell yea they should pay for their kids, its bad enough that some men don't even have any relationship with their children, why should all the mothers have to financially and physically and emotionally support their children all by themselves.

So Kudos to all the men and women who support their children!!!

Seduce the mind and see what a wonderful adventure the body will take you on..


Heathen_G replies on 7/1/2019 1:55 pm:
A woman marries a man she assumes the risk she just created a deadbeat dad. Men are not deadbeat dads until a woman choose to make one of him.
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Men should have the option to pay child support!
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You got half of his postal retirement, and who knows what else. Basically fucking up his retirement days. I see no reason for him to have been forced to pay child support on top of that.
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The men who are paying child support maybe are forced to pay , or they feel obligated..no way to know. But what else did those "Good" men lose in divorce court, to their women? Maybe some women were considerate and only asked for child support and didn't financially ruin her ex.
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Any relationship with his children is an option. As, too, if the husband gets custody, the woman also may choose not to have a relationship with the child.
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why should all the mothers have to financially and physically and emotionally support their children all by themselves. .... Because these women gave birth to their child, so the child is her responsibility.

IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
6/5/2019 4:12 am

DNA tests for paternity should be compulsory at birth to prevent paternity fraud. Women who try to trick a man into paying for someone else's child should be charged with fraud.

Blowing your load inside a woman and just trusting her not to have a baby deserves a stupidity tax.

Following my advice may cause injury, insanity, financial loss, hemorrhoids, death and superpowers


Heathen_G replies on 6/5/2019 2:25 pm:
That's exactly right. So many poor bastards out there who just trusted.

NottyNum51 56M

6/4/2019 12:07 am

alright ...

First: i have two kids and i am supporting both...the younger one is NOT MINE however i chose to support and set an example for him after his parents proved themselves to be basically unfit. Both my kids share the same biological mother ---my ex. The younger child's father is currently in prison serving a sentence for enticing minors online (personally i think all who commit such crimes should be publicly burned at the stake but thats just MY view)... moving along... My stepson's father is also a woman beater and the very last thing i wanted is him to be raised by one of THOSE to think that beating those he loved was OK ....so i took over when they essentially walked away...and i am GLAD I DID My life has been so enriched by his and my daughter's presences i have matured and grown over the years that they have been in my life....SURE its been a HARD SLOG but i think my two will be wonderful Adults when i am finished

Second: eh i think it should run BOTH ways MOTHERS who desert their kids (they exist out there) should pay for em too if you choose to put your uncapped penis into a lady and create a baby with her you BOTH should accept the consequences and pay for the raising of that kid if you choose to be the absentee biological parent

and HEY about those who are "wrongly" assigned paternity? there are DNA tests that establish it nowadays and all you as a man have to do is contact the local state Child Support Enforcement Division and DISPUTE paternity and demand a test be performed.

most boys and girls past puberty can biologically father or mother a child....however it takes a grown real MAN and WOMAN to stick around and RAISE that kid and make all the sacrifices needed to do it so that that has a good example to follow from both parents


Heathen_G replies on 6/4/2019 4:25 pm:
First: i have two kids and i am supporting both. .the younger one is NOT MINE however i chose to support .... Right, you chose to support. My statement is about men who may choose not to support through "Child support payments", and I feel men should have that option, since women do have that option of completely giving the child away and absolving herself of all responsibilities to the child - as that is her reproductive right. So men should get a similar Reproductive Right.
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Second: eh i think it should run BOTH ways MOTHERS who desert their kids (they exist out there) should pay for em too ... Sure, but I'm talking about men and child support, to have that as an option.
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if you choose .... Exactly, "If you choose" to have unprotected sex, as of now, the man is liable for child support...but that woman, who "Chose to have unprotected sex, by her Reproductive Right, she can abort it or give it away without the mans knowledge or consent.
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to put your uncapped penis into a lady and create a baby with her you BOTH should accept the consequences .... The woman has the Right to NOT accept the consequences. And so then , so should the man have the Right to not accept the consequences.
In some cases the man never knew he got a woman pregnant, but by her Rights, she can come after him 20 years later for back child support payments. He should have the legal Right to tell her, "No".
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there are DNA tests that establish it nowadays ... There certainly are..but that has to be done at birth, or within 6 months. I would suggest to any male on the verge of becoming a dad, that he demands a DNA test at birth to establish that it is is his.

neednewfun50 66M
141 posts
6/3/2019 11:14 pm

total fucking bullshit your shoved you cock in it and made a child not a chils fault both of you were probably idiots but yes you need to support that child and hope it grows up to be better than than the parents who brought it into the world


Heathen_G replies on 6/4/2019 3:49 pm:
None of what I said is bullshit. All of what I said is factual.

And the person shoving your cock "In it" to make a child, isn't always the man. Women take sexual advantage of men, too.

Did you know women can, and do, surrender infants for adoption without notifying or identifying the father of the child. She can do that, because it's her reproductive right. The fact remains that women can, once again, relieve themselves of all social, legal, financial and moral responsibility for a child they do not want. ... So then a man should also have that right.

To begin with, "The option" to pay child support.

You get upset about that because you know there are men who will choose to not pay.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/3/2019 10:59 pm

According to the organization Fathers and Families, tens of thousands of men have been wrongly assigned paternity and are compelled by law to pay years of child support for children whom DNA test have shown are not his own.


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