More Deception – And The Implications, To Me – are Large  

Msmealsonheels 25F  
81 posts
4/29/2019 5:56 pm
More Deception – And The Implications, To Me – are Large


I had noticed something recently while viewing member profiles. Maybe it’s just another website glitch? But I have my doubts about now. In viewing member profiles, I noticed I stopped seeing any, and all references to the last date the member had logged into their account.

A correction here - I know the display of a members join date on the members profile can be turned off by the member, in their account settings. And I know some members do turn off the display of the join date on their profile. But I thought it strange that I was no longer seeing the date of last visit on any profile…

I had also noticed that if someone peaked my interest , I could sent them a flirt, or hotlist them, and their last log-in date would be displayed in the list of profiles in my hotlist, or my flirts sent page.

Today - I notice all references to a members last log-in date – no longer display in either my hotlist, and my flirts sent page…

If this is not just another website glitch - to me, the implications of this are a bit large.

This means to me I will have no idea if a profile is abandoned, or not. if I were to write to a person, to try to contact them – I might well completely wasting all of my time and effort in trying to write them a creative and inviting message…

Not knowing if a profile had basically been abandoned by it’s owner would also help make it look like there are more people on the website – than their really are. But something like this is only more deception, by the parent company of all of the websites they run.

And at my expense, writing to profiles that may be abandoned. This gets more and more worthless, as a possible social website, as time goes on. Excepting the blogs here, of course. About the only place you may have any idea now – if the member is still active on one of the websites...

Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/29/2019 6:02 pm


clittywhisperer1 54M
1161 posts
4/29/2019 6:18 pm

it is called marketing manipulation , make you keep trying and keep you active when no real profile person exists . bait and switch simple as that . only the chat rooms give any real interaction with some real people, but many are bots too .


redrockrascal 60M
19931 posts
4/29/2019 6:29 pm

the last date the member had logged into their account disappeared over a month ago.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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lonlyforlove2 76M  
1840 posts
4/29/2019 6:34 pm

Hello young lady, as other have reported this feature did disappear some time back. it still shows on view all top fans I think. Not sure why this was removed as it was a nice tool to be able to tell if some one was active...


looking4u69ca 58M  
439 posts
4/29/2019 6:43 pm

It was a month or 2 ago that this disappeared. So did the numer of friends in your list. I sent 2 complaints to Passion.com (MenNation.com). I want to know when people were last online. Why bother sending a friend request or message to someone who may not have been on the site for months. I suggest everyone send complaints to Passion/MenNation.com.


lonlyforlove2 76M  
1840 posts
4/29/2019 6:50 pm

and in the last few days the "last date for people that flirted and view" one is now gone. So they have made all look the same, cant tell if some on is here or not. Like some of the other antics to create artificial "looking" activity....


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/29/2019 6:52 pm

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    the last date the member had logged into their account disappeared over a month ago.
Well, I had noticed that. But as late as last night, I was still able to see the date of last log-in by a member - in my hotlist, and on my flirts sent page. Today the members last log-in date is gone from my hotlist, and my flirts sent page.

After the date of last log-in by a member disappeared from the profiles, I had been purposely either sending flirts, or hotlisting the member - just so I could see the date of their last log-in.

Now, today - that no longer works for me...


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/29/2019 7:01 pm

    Quoting clittywhisperer1:
    it is called marketing manipulation , make you keep trying and keep you active when no real profile person exists . bait and switch simple as that . only the chat rooms give any real interaction with some real people, but many are bots too .
Marketing? I agree.. But to me, more than just marketing. Absolutely deception. Lots of people that have been on here abandon their profile. You used to be able to see that when you viewed profiles. And I mean a very high percentage of profiles on the website showed the person had not logged-in months, and some not for years..

This means viewing profile looking for someone of interest - will be pretty much useless now. Because there will be a very high percentage chance you would be trying to contact someone that has abandoned their profile here. And this is on top of the percentage of people that just won't bother to answer anyway.


looking4u69ca 58M  
439 posts
4/29/2019 7:01 pm

Wow. I just went to friends list and now it dosen't show when they have last been online either. That's new in the last week. Severely not impressed.


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/29/2019 7:03 pm

    Quoting looking4u69ca:
    It was a month or 2 ago that this disappeared. So did the numer of friends in your list. I sent 2 complaints to Passion.com (MenNation.com). I want to know when people were last online. Why bother sending a friend request or message to someone who may not have been on the site for months. I suggest everyone send complaints to Passion/MenNation.com.
It's starting to look like why bother with anything - other than a free membership, and the blogs...


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/29/2019 7:13 pm

    Quoting lonlyforlove2:
    Hello young lady, as other have reported this feature did disappear some time back. it still shows on view all top fans I think. Not sure why this was removed as it was a nice tool to be able to tell if some one was active...
On Friend Finder Networks, because they will keep abandoned profiles for years, to keep the member numbers high - it wasn't just a nice tool, it was a necessary tool!

To help keep you from completely wasting your time and effort - writing to abandoned profiles.. If you were ever going to try to contact anyone of interest to you.. As you might, on any kind of social website..


scott0250 52M
263 posts
4/29/2019 7:18 pm

Welcome to the new and unimproved MenNation.com.


Newbe509 42M
33 posts
4/29/2019 7:26 pm

This site is sure nuff going backwards.


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/29/2019 7:29 pm

    Quoting lonlyforlove2:
    and in the last few days the "last date for people that flirted and view" one is now gone. So they have made all look the same, cant tell if some on is here or not. Like some of the other antics to create artificial "looking" activity....
A thought I've had for a while, about that artificial "looking" activity. You all, the men on the companies websites - you all have been targeted. Especially those gullible enough to believe all the artificial "looking" activity they receive on this companies websites.

So many accusations have flown about scammers on this website, and I know there are a lot of them. Some of the scammers never seemed to get the recognition they deserved though - anyone using lies and deception for their personal gain. And on this companies websites, more often than not - it's about something other than money.

The artificial "looking" activity? That is about money though.. But guess whom the scammer is this time though...

And not knowing if a member is actually active, or not - it's in the same vain..


gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
4/29/2019 8:38 pm

I may be wrong. Back when I joined a member could turn off the day they joined, but the not the last day they visit the site. Not trying to say you are wrong or debate the issue. I am in totally in agreement on what you posted.


Msmealsonheels replies on 4/29/2019 9:35 pm:
You are correct - I am corrected. It's the join date that could be turned off by the member.. Not the last visit date.

gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
4/29/2019 8:41 pm

This is a way to hide the millions of profiles that have not been active for greater than 3 months. This is MenNation.com way of hiding the real truth to the new costumer. For example. Why would some one join a site or renew their membership once they figured out that the majority of profiles that are not active.

Unfortunately your concerns which were valid for the paying costumer were totally ignored and brushed to the side.

MenNation.com does not currently do anything to delete those inactive profiles or fix glitches to make this a more user friendly site. It sucks.

They only way to respond to there response to your concerns is not to renew.

Thanks for the update. We will not be renewing our membership.


pketch 45M
40 posts
4/29/2019 8:46 pm

This is a very interesting thread you've started. Things to think about. Thanks.


gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
4/29/2019 10:17 pm

People already voice their frustration using blogs when people reach out to other members via email and don't get a response.

Members are going to get more frustrated now. People try and reach out to another via email and not getting a response. It would save an attempt if the sending member knew if the other member is currently active, and there is a remote chance they will get a response. Most likely the member didn't respond because the profile has been inactive for greater than a month or more. what the fuck is MenNation.com thinking.


hinj1 34F  
11326 posts
4/29/2019 11:08 pm

I don't generally approach someone unless REALLY interested or they have e-mailed me before. BUT my advice to you, "test the waters" send a small hello "how are you", "are you available", or "are you interested" etc something like that. This way you don't waste your time, or get "invested" in someone who isn't even a member anymore or who has abandoned their profile.


author51 56F  
75729 posts
4/30/2019 12:46 am

I noticed it as well a while ago but I do not message any man first as a rule.. It is the other way around.. It would be nice though for MenNation.com to put on again when they last logged on as it let us know they were still active...

One can never have enough JOY in their life...


gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
4/30/2019 12:46 am

    Quoting hinj1:
    I don't generally approach someone unless REALLY interested or they have e-mailed me before. BUT my advice to you, "test the waters" send a small hello "how are you", "are you available", or "are you interested" etc something like that. This way you don't waste your time, or get "invested" in someone who isn't even a member anymore or who has abandoned their profile.
Most members state in their profile that they will not respond to one liners as you have suggested. Maybe for the female you will get a response. Males don't have the luxury as their counterpart.


gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
4/30/2019 1:15 am

The ability to arrange search results by Distance/Last Visit/Newest Members at the top of the search area is still available, but the date itself will no longer be displayed.

So we searched our area for potential members for a possible meeting. Only wanted to search the ones who had been on the last day or two. Found it very frustrating not know when to stop clicking next to stop our search.

Why even have the last visit as a choice in the drop box. I just don't understand their rationale for doing this. They should build a program so the member has the option, not MenNation.com if the member wants to be shown their last visit. They have an option available for date joined for the member to decide if they want it shown.


XHamburgDave 75M  
8253 posts
4/30/2019 1:15 am

Good Morning, I wrote a Post about this back in February.
"WTF is this Site doing? This morning I searched members near me, suffice to say I was extremely surprised to see nearly 60 members in my local area!!

However on further investigation, there were some in there that I knew from previous searches hadn't been online for more than 3 months! On checking the profiles, they only had Joined Dates, the Last Visit Dates were all missing!
I cannot search by Last visit within 3 days etc. that has also disappeared! The only way to see current local members, is to search members online.

Yet another cynical attempt by MenNation.com, to try to Con Members into thinking there are more local members, than are actually there"

I feel your Frustration


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/30/2019 1:49 am

    Quoting hinj1:
    I don't generally approach someone unless REALLY interested or they have e-mailed me before. BUT my advice to you, "test the waters" send a small hello "how are you", "are you available", or "are you interested" etc something like that. This way you don't waste your time, or get "invested" in someone who isn't even a member anymore or who has abandoned their profile.
I would rather chose someone of interest to me - rather than wait to be chosen by someone that is not really of interest to me.

If I knew that a member had not logged-in in nearly 3-monthes or so, I have sent a one-liner before, asking if they were still watching their mailbox here. There will be no way to tell now though, how long it's been, since someone logged-in to their profile.

I have a hard time sending one-liners though. I know one-liners are less likely to be responded to. I know I don't view one-liners all that favorably, when I receive them.


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/30/2019 2:21 am

    Quoting author51:
    I noticed it as well a while ago but I do not message any man first as a rule.. It is the other way around.. It would be nice though for MenNation.com to put on again when they last logged on as it let us know they were still active...
If you never send a man a message first, then this change in the website may never effect you. I would rather have a choice in a man that I think could be of deeper interest to me though. Honestly, there are a lot of men on here that I'm not really interested in.

I have a feeling the last log-in date will never return to the profiles though. When someone views profiles, actually seeing that so many members haven';t logged into the website - in months, or years... That would ruin the illusion, and the promise of the illusion - the parent company wishes to create on all of their websites. That all of the profiles on the website are real and active members.

It doesn't have to be real - it only needs to look like it could be real.....


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/30/2019 2:41 am

    Quoting gr8tb8t:
    The ability to arrange search results by Distance/Last Visit/Newest Members at the top of the search area is still available, but the date itself will no longer be displayed.

    So we searched our area for potential members for a possible meeting. Only wanted to search the ones who had been on the last day or two. Found it very frustrating not know when to stop clicking next to stop our search.

    Why even have the last visit as a choice in the drop box. I just don't understand their rationale for doing this. They should build a program so the member has the option, not MenNation.com if the member wants to be shown their last visit. They have an option available for date joined for the member to decide if they want it shown.
After writing about this a bit now, I think I understand.. The rationale for making this change in the member profiles, removing the last log-in date - is to help create an illusion. Especially for new and non-paid standard members.

To help create the illusion that there are many more active members on the website - than there actually are. The member profiles don't need to actually be real and active members - they only need to look like they could be...

Maybe it's a bit like men's profiles that have the marital status omitted... Unless you know up front to look for something - seeing something that isn't there can be a little more difficult to do....


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
4/30/2019 2:53 am

    Quoting XHamburgDave:
    Good Morning, I wrote a Post about this back in February.
    "WTF is this Site doing? This morning I searched members near me, suffice to say I was extremely surprised to see nearly 60 members in my local area!!

    However on further investigation, there were some in there that I knew from previous searches hadn't been online for more than 3 months! On checking the profiles, they only had Joined Dates, the Last Visit Dates were all missing!
    I cannot search by Last visit within 3 days etc. that has also disappeared! The only way to see current local members, is to search members online.

    Yet another cynical attempt by MenNation.com, to try to Con Members into thinking there are more local members, than are actually there"

    I feel your Frustration
My first thought was deception. I still see that, but now the word illusion is included in my feelings of the changes made to the website. And I feel this deception, and the illusion it helps create - is focused at new members, and especially potential new members.

The member profiles on their websites don't have to actually be real, and active members on the websites - they really only need to look like they could be....

And seeing that a member hasn't been active for months, or even years... Well, that would ruin the illusion...


proteus_2a 53M
6820 posts
4/30/2019 6:16 am



Cheers - P


backpocket13 42M
7286 posts
4/30/2019 2:44 pm

Hey Darlin,
..........This place is Notorious for not only using outdated profiles of people who haven’t been here in years,.........They also send out fake flirts and a whole host of other nonsense,........That’s why I’m here to blog only,...........
Sinfully Yours, backpocket13


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/1/2019 6:42 am

    Quoting backpocket13:
    Hey Darlin,
    ..........This place is Notorious for not only using outdated profiles of people who haven’t been here in years,.........They also send out fake flirts and a whole host of other nonsense,........That’s why I’m here to blog only,...........
    Sinfully Yours, backpocket13
Let's see.. Make such promises for the website members right on the landing page of the website - essentially promising the viewer that the members of the website are going to want to have sex with them...

Bombarding new members with fake generated website email messages, and paid for ambassador contact messages...

Fake profile view messages..

Flirts, and what all else???

And now going out of their way to hide the fact a profile may be inactive, or even abandoned for more than a year...

I admit I was a bit upset at first. Because the most recent changes will effect the way I had been using the website. Looking at things now though, there could be more to what's going on.. There just might be a part-two to this blog post..


gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
5/1/2019 9:00 am

Notice the VIP members and verified members post fake pictures/videos. Ive reported them. They are still there.

A deliberate action by the site owners to create false activity numbers, a selling feature.


gr8tb8t 35M/38F  
111 posts
5/1/2019 9:02 am

Be sure to have the AUTORENEW feature turned off.. if not sure, be sure that there in no credit card listed for them to debit.


GangBangMemphis 41M  
56 posts
5/1/2019 11:05 am

The "nearby" search is totally worthless if I can't eliminate the people who haven't been on in weeks or months or years. Goodbye nearby.


sexinsurprise 50M
21 posts
5/3/2019 12:25 pm

More control by the cyber goblins.


Linc1912 42M  
975 posts
5/5/2019 3:25 pm

NOW you see why most of us men send SHORT messages.
Women say its because we arent using our brains, but our dicks.
Some times.. yeah. that is true. But most of us men here would send 1-2 paragraph messages being COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL, and even using spell check... all to never get a response. Or have the next blog response be
"Where are the COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL men that can spell..?"

~Linc was here.~


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/5/2019 4:13 pm

    Quoting GangBangMemphis:
    The "nearby" search is totally worthless if I can't eliminate the people who haven't been on in weeks or months or years. Goodbye nearby.
The websites Friend Finder Networks operates becomes more useless for what they portray the websites to be. It's like the direction is to be more like just a visual website. Sort of like some kind of porn website, where people may come to look around to see what appears to be what might be.


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/5/2019 4:39 pm

    Quoting Linc1912:
    NOW you see why most of us men send SHORT messages.
    Women say its because we arent using our brains, but our dicks.
    Some times.. yeah. that is true. But most of us men here would send 1-2 paragraph messages being COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL, and even using spell check... all to never get a response. Or have the next blog response be
    "Where are the COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL men that can spell..?"
I suppose to each, their own. About the only time I ever sent a short introductory message to anyone - was when I could see that they had not been active on the website for quite some time. And then it was usually to just ask them if they were still watching this mailbox of theirs.

That information - the date they were last active on the website - will be hidden now. Likely, how this change will impact me, is it will be much less frequently that I take a chance, and attempt to contact someone that seems they might be someone who could be of deeper interest to me.

Generally, at least on here - an introductory message to someone is met with silence. And it doesn't seem to matter how much content you write in that introductory message. That's just the way it is, and for many or most people - I expect that to only get worst... Now that people will have no idea if a profile is actually inactive, or was abandoned years ago...


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/5/2019 4:43 pm

I don't know... It appears to be a choice of Friend Finder Networks.

A direction, and path for the websites they own, and operate.


Kjoffrey 23M
19 posts
5/7/2019 2:56 pm

My biggest problem with the site at the moment is when using IM, you tap the button to bring up the message and instead of getting the message you get a screen that asks if you want to be a paying member, then when you try to get back to the message it gets deleted before you can read it.


Letmepoundyou02 28M
16 posts
5/11/2019 4:49 am

There are plenty of glitches around here. It never seems to improve


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/11/2019 12:16 pm

Well, at first I wasn't sure if it was a glitch or not. I understand glitches will happen.

But no, what I spoke of is -NOT- a glitch. It appears to me - to be a deliberate change to Friend Finder Networks websites to deceive and hide the fact that a members profile you may be looking at - is actually an inactive and/or abandoned profile.

Or in other words - it doesn't have to be real - it only needs to look like it could be..


David20180101 75M  
68 posts
5/13/2019 1:16 pm

I so very strongly agree. Last visit date is essential for deciding whether or not to send a message.


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/13/2019 2:08 pm

    Quoting David20180101:
    I so very strongly agree. Last visit date is essential for deciding whether or not to send a message.
Well, that's information that will be hidden from you from now on.. So you take a chance.. So if you write a good and personal introduction message, and if the profile happened to be abandoned, you will just be wasting your time..

From viewing profiles in the past, and seeing the member join date, and the last visit date - I can tell you that some people will make a profile, use it the one time - and then never come back..


austf 53M
40 posts
5/26/2019 12:58 am

I thought it was my settings thanks


cindy_allentv52 62T  
12 posts
5/26/2019 8:19 am

Just another dick move by MenNation.com so new members think all these profiles are active when they're not. They don't realize or just don't care that they're screwing the paying customer with these stupid ass moves.


cindy_allentv52 62T  
12 posts
5/26/2019 4:55 pm

I contacted MenNation.com, basically telling them what I posted above... this is the response I got.....

Dear Member,

Thank you for contacting us.

Thank you for your email. The "Last Visit" date will no longer be displayed on member profiles which is by design. The ability to arrange search results by Distance/Last Visit/Newest Members at the top of the search area is still available, but the date itself will no longer be displayed.


Msmealsonheels 25F  
324 posts
5/30/2019 6:20 am

    Quoting cindy_allentv52:
    Just another dick move by MenNation.com so new members think all these profiles are active when they're not. They don't realize or just don't care that they're screwing the paying customer with these stupid ass moves.
Well, The parent company of Passion - Friend Finder Networks - I feel they DO care, and they DO realize just exactly what they are doing. This change to their websites, that will help them deceive (Especially new members) - they admit it is by design.

In the end though, some will come to a Friend Finder Networks website with some screwing in mind... And now they may be more likely to get that screwing - just not quite exactly in the way that they had been thinking of though....


Evocules 50M  
857 posts
5/30/2019 2:31 pm

I think you're on to something here!


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